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Economy => Trading Discussion => Topic started by: MicroGuy on November 09, 2013, 11:15:09 AM

Title: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: MicroGuy on November 09, 2013, 11:15:09 AM
Please share your thoughts on the dynamics of dual-pair trading.

For example on Cryptsy some coins have trading pairs in both BTC and LTC markets. If a buyer/seller visits the exchange and wants to trade the currency how would he go about getting the best deal. Would it not be more complex and require trading in both markets? If so would this not possibly require the buyer or seller to "hesitate" and look for simpler coins to trade?
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: tadspoles on November 09, 2013, 11:19:17 AM
I agree with this.  It's probably best to be traded against just BTC.
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: MicroGuy on November 09, 2013, 11:37:46 AM

Maybe we should request that both CoinEX and Cryptsy remove the GLD/LTC trading pairs?
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: Alpha on November 09, 2013, 11:45:19 AM
And maybe we should get a few more opinions.  I use both depending on if I have LTC or BTC to spend.  It saves a step and fees.  I could get by without the LTC option but I'd like to see what others have to say
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: tadspoles on November 09, 2013, 11:45:43 AM
I agree with that.  I'd love to get some more thoughts on it here though.
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: tadspoles on November 09, 2013, 11:46:36 AM
Alpha beat me to the punch.  I guess that's why he's Alpha and I'm not.
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: MicroGuy on November 09, 2013, 11:53:02 AM
I'm thinking about this now and running different scenarios through my mind and contemplating what effect each would have on market price.

And maybe we should get a few more opinions.  I use both depending on if I have LTC or BTC to spend.  It saves a step and fees.  I could get by without the LTC option but I'd like to see what others have to say

Interesting. This is a good point also needing consideration.
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: dustint on November 09, 2013, 12:12:33 PM
cryptsy has a lot of people flowing through I think just btc option on both sites is the best in my opinion
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: Stouse49 on November 09, 2013, 12:24:56 PM
Volumes on CoinEx and Cryptsy were higher in the BTC market than with LTC according to my observations.
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: ipaint on November 09, 2013, 12:29:19 PM
With both pairs I just use the one I can get the best deal in. So I use both LTC and BTC markets, just figure out which one you can buy the most Goldcoins in :) But I do use LTC most of the time, guess that's because Goldcoin started in the LTC market.  But I think one market would be better, BTC is the market Goldcoin should be in. Sooner or later the high price of BTC has gotta bring up the prices of the coins trading under it. Because people will be looking for something else they can invest in.
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: tadspoles on November 09, 2013, 12:38:16 PM
I think the volume on Cryptsy is important for exposure and getting the coin in the most hands (adoption).  A BTC only option at both sites, coinex and cryptsy is likely best.

I have no data to support this conclusion.  It's just a gut feel.
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: tadspoles on November 09, 2013, 01:25:58 PM
I wonder if we should attempt to get on mcxNow?
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: MicroGuy on November 09, 2013, 01:36:24 PM
This is great! We need more conversations like this one.   :D

You guys are awesome!  ;D
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: dustint on November 09, 2013, 01:41:35 PM
more exchanges is more exposure mcxNow would be great since they list fewer coins which makes them look more reputable.  When people come to cryptsy for the first time they can be overwhelmed with all the different coins.  mcxnow is a great idea in my opinion
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: golden_glitcher on November 09, 2013, 03:19:29 PM
I cant say whether being on ltc and btc markets is good or bad, i really just don't know. but i would guess that if we were on a USD market it would really help. People see their alt currencies drop in btc value because btc is rising but some don't realise the value of their coin isn't actually dropping much if they calculated it in USD.  BTC-E is the only exchange for alts that has a USD market as far as i know, and cryptsy are supposed to be adding USD market at some point. But in the meantime getting on as many exchanges as we can such as MCXNOW can only be a good thing.
Might even be a good idea to check for any Chinese alt-coin exchanges and try get on them too since the Chinese are buying up BTC like mad. 
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: tadspoles on November 09, 2013, 03:24:06 PM
A Chinese AltCoin market is BRILLIANT!
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: Alpha on November 09, 2013, 03:29:12 PM
I cant say whether being on ltc and btc markets is good or bad, i really just don't know. but i would guess that if we were on a USD market it would really help. People see their alt currencies drop in btc value because btc is rising but some don't realise the value of their coin isn't actually dropping much if they calculated it in USD.  BTC-E is the only exchange for alts that has a USD market as far as i know, and cryptsy are supposed to be adding USD market at some point. But in the meantime getting on as many exchanges as we can such as MCXNOW can only be a good thing.
Might even be a good idea to check for any Chinese alt-coin exchanges and try get on them too since the Chinese are buying up BTC like mad.

I agree with you.  I think exposure would really help get things going.  Has being added to BTC-E ever been pursued?
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: kelsey on November 10, 2013, 03:02:48 AM
I think dual is bad. btc rises people bail all alts to cash out in btc, alts on the ltc market soon match, later ltc rises alts gets hit again.

(please dont add that oh but gld follows btc up like I've heard a few times on the forum).
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: ipaint on November 10, 2013, 09:46:13 AM
I see Vern put Goldcoin in the BTC and LTC Markets. I had some LTC so I bought a few Goldcoins :)
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: Ch3rub on November 13, 2013, 02:58:58 PM
I just bought some coins yesterday to get a few more than I can mine, personally I don't care and I actually transferred LTC to exchange, traded for BTC and bought GLD as this gave me more coins than LTC -> GLD directly.

I'm noob at trading  ;D but the way I see it is that more options is better, surely the more important thing would be getting USD exchange for GLD!

Chinese exchange for GLD is a brilliant idea!
Title: Re: Dual-Pair Exchange Trading | The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Post by: AZIZ1977 on November 13, 2013, 05:58:38 PM
I just bought some coins yesterday to get a few more than I can mine, personally I don't care and I actually transferred LTC to exchange, traded for BTC and bought GLD as this gave me more coins than LTC -> GLD directly.

I'm noob at trading  ;D but the way I see it is that more options is better, surely the more important thing would be getting USD exchange for GLD!

Chinese exchange for GLD is a brilliant idea!

I agree with you that getting GoldCoin on an Chinese exchange will expose GLD to a huge market.