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Main Category => Mining & Pools => Topic started by: maccenon on July 08, 2016, 03:17:02 am

Title: Questions about coin production?
Post by: maccenon on July 08, 2016, 03:17:02 am
Multiple developers are referring to and on the production quality of the coins did not give any kind of results, and this is a natural result - pools began to give up the coins. The first was - HASH-TO-COINS, a waiting list of 2 pools. Tentative trading www.cryptopia.co.nz of the low (or rather zero) turnover. If in the near future the situation will not change it can lead to a complete abandonment of the coin. Here I would like to once again appeal to the administration and developers so that they have revised their policies on coin production. I certainly understand there podobonoe protection - 90% of production is rejected by the system - that's for sure busting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: cryptosolar on July 08, 2016, 05:14:45 am
I can not see any issues on cryptopia : (http://i64.tinypic.com/24yb6g2.jpg)

 :think:
I certainly understand there podobonoe protection - 90% of production is rejected by the system - that's for sure busting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

- I am not sure whats is the meaning of "podobonoe" protection ?
-  and i guess you translated the 51% defence system a bit wrong ? Its not saying: "making goldcoin 51% less vulnerable"
- it is a protection system against an 51 % attack.

 



Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: maccenon on July 08, 2016, 05:31:38 am
Enough already lie - in reality, the system rejects more than 90% of the extracted.
so your protection causes that people do not want to produce a coin
and about the https: //www.cryptopia.co.nz You probably forgot that provided zero-turnover exchange removes the coin's go and see what is happening there. real trade except https://c-cex.com/ no where.
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: maccenon on July 08, 2016, 05:41:29 am
it is to your 50%(https://yadi.sk/i/loS13cH-t7WSi)
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: cryptosolar on July 08, 2016, 05:42:30 am
Enough already lie - in reality, the system rejects more than 90% of the extracted.
so your protection causes that people do not want to produce a coin
and about the https: //www.cryptopia.co.nz You probably forgot that provided zero-turnover exchange removes the coin's go and see what is happening there. real trade except https://c-cex.com/ no where.

- Cryptopia have about 40 coins with not even 0.01 Bitcoin on the buy side, before they remove GOLDCOIN , they have to remove 30 other XXX coins .
- would say they are glad to have Goldcoin listed and traded   .
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: Aurophilicity on July 08, 2016, 05:48:27 am
The problem is caused by a pool which sends blocks with a timestamp that's in the future giving itself an advantage over other miners.

See:  https://www.gldtalk.org/index.php?topic=3617.0
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: kelsey on July 08, 2016, 09:26:41 am
Enough already lie - in reality, the system rejects more than 90% of the extracted.
so your protection causes that people do not want to produce a coin
and about the https: //www.cryptopia.co.nz You probably forgot that provided zero-turnover exchange removes the coin's go and see what is happening there. real trade except https://c-cex.com/ no where.

lol there is zero chance Goldcoin would get delisted from cryptopia, to start with cryptopia doesn't delist based on low vol (bittrex, c-cex etc do but not cryptopia).  cryptopia may delisted abandoned coins (which aint going to ever happen with goldcoin). ... 8)

Goldcoin got listed on cryptopia in a time when you had to get voted on and Goldcoin convincingly won the public vote beating 100s of other coins, also many goldcoin holders are active members of the cryptopia community (as well as the c-cex community).

And even if by some insanity if ever got delisted, the fee in dotcoin (the exchanges internal coin) I alone could easily cover (and there is a more goldcoin holders holding a stash of dotcoin)....so it'd be a non issue.


 :-*
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: Aurophilicity on July 08, 2016, 09:33:28 am
lol there is zero chance Goldcoin would get delisted from cryptopia, to start with cryptopia doesn't delist based on low vol (bittrex, c-cex etc do but not cryptopia).  cryptopia may delisted abandoned coins (which aint going to ever happen with goldcoin). ... 8)

Goldcoin got listed on cryptopia in a time when you had to get voted on and Goldcoin convincingly won the public vote beating 100s of other coins, also many goldcoin holders are active members of the cryptopia community (as well as the c-cex community).

And even if by some insanity if ever got delisted, the fee in dotcoin (the exchanges internal coin) I alone could easily cover (and there is a more goldcoin holders holding a stash of dotcoin)....so it'd be a non issue.


 :-*

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: MicroGuy on July 08, 2016, 10:26:34 am
Multiple developers are referring to and on the production quality of the coins did not give any kind of results, and this is a natural result - pools began to give up the coins. The first was - HASH-TO-COINS, a waiting list of 2 pools. Tentative trading www.cryptopia.co.nz of the low (or rather zero) turnover. If in the near future the situation will not change it can lead to a complete abandonment of the coin. Here I would like to once again appeal to the administration and developers so that they have revised their policies on coin production. I certainly understand there podobonoe protection - 90% of production is rejected by the system - that's for sure busting !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We've had numerous discussions about this over the years since the 51% defense system was implemented. The confusion seems to arise because Goldcoin is uniquely equipped to thwart auto-switching multi-pools.

The code is engineered to reward loyal miners and to reject unfriendly pools that maliciously strip-mine coins leaving them for dead once the difficulty rises and the coin becomes unprofitable to mine. Expecting a coin that was designed to be incompatible with multi-pools to work well with multi-pools is unreasonable and illogical.

I would remind you that Goldcoin is open source, consensus based, optional to mine, and experimental. If you have a specific idea for improving Goldcoin, you should clearly articulate it. If you have specific code changes that you would like to see implemented, you should submit them for the developers and community to review.

But so far, all I've seen is your complaint about a coin reliably performing in a manner consistent with its design.
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: maccenon on July 08, 2016, 10:45:26 am
One problem - not the desire of developers to adjust to the end-user, by the way MikroGui you have written to me on Skype that you simply akdministrator - and do not interfere in these razratbotki, and here I do not understand your comments.
Next - any stock exchange conducts screenings for profitability - it is business law, you are not right, especially since kriptopiya a long time no one trades for Most of pools - Main coin is no longer profitable. I do not understand the administration - what do you want? Is it so hard to fix the problem? You do not need new users? You do not need a country coverage? You yourself dig a hole for themselves under the guise of nonsense about protection - the coin has not yet reached to the level that it would have broken it at the minimum profitability of the border. And you are doing at the moment all that would kill the margin.
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: maccenon on July 08, 2016, 10:47:58 am
What the hell is up to 7 hours of today earn 25 coins, 50 megaheshah, Donat pool 1%, who need a coin and such protection - You are killing development.
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: Aurophilicity on July 08, 2016, 10:54:58 am
 :think:
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: MicroGuy on July 08, 2016, 10:55:46 am
What the hell is up to 7 hours of today earn 25 coins, 50 megaheshah, Donat pool 1%, who need a coin and such protection - You are killing development.

Please provide pool name and URL if you would like the community to investigate. Thank you!
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: maccenon on July 08, 2016, 11:51:50 am
sminers.com:3330
maccenon.1
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: MicroGuy on July 08, 2016, 12:03:36 pm
sminers.com:3330
maccenon.1

I would suggest trying this pool and then comparing your results: http://gld.hashfaster.com/

We fully support dedicated pools and strive to constantly improve Goldcoin. Miners are a vital component of the currency's ecosystem and we appreciate your support and involvement. The main thing required is that we work together in a calm and measured way to improve the currency.

There will be some new mining tests conducted this week to double-check the network's performance. The pool I linked appears to have a lower percentage of orphans.
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: vnp on July 08, 2016, 12:55:19 pm
problem is not in pool !!!

Last block found

hashfaster block : 449090

sminers block :  449078

http://gld.cryptocoinexplorer.com last block : 449019

 :o
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: cryptosolar on July 08, 2016, 03:04:33 pm
I can not see the problem , the block explorer is working fine for me, and synced correct to the client  :thumbsup:

http://gld.cryptocoinexplorer.com

(http://i66.tinypic.com/212e0z4.jpg)
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: vnp on July 08, 2016, 03:41:50 pm
well yes now work after a couple of hours !  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: akumaburn on July 08, 2016, 05:57:14 pm
What the hell is up to 7 hours of today earn 25 coins, 50 megaheshah, Donat pool 1%,

GoldCoin has an anti-strip mine protection built in, if you wish to mine with a significant percentage of network hashpower, then you will have to wait for the difficulty to adjust to match (may take a day or two of mining). Afterwards orphans will drop significantly.. this is by design.

We do not support strip mining(mining just to sell in market), nor 51%ers. If you wish to mine with your 50 MH/s, you need to keep it on long term and then your orphans will drop as the network difficulty rises to match your hashpower.

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who need a coin and such protection - You are killing development.
If you do not understand the particulars of cryptocurrency and the issues small coins have with network attacks, you'd likely not appreciate the fact that we are historically the most stable crypto-currency ever made.
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: MicroGuy on July 09, 2016, 10:21:04 am
After further review, it does appear as though changes to the current difficulty code could improve the orphan situation.  :think:

We have several developers studying the situation and they will be providing recommendations over the next few days.
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: kelsey on July 09, 2016, 10:55:29 am
Next - any stock exchange conducts screenings for profitability - it is business law, you are not right, especially since kriptopiya a long time no one trades for Most of pools - Main coin is no longer profitable.

Cryptopia will not at any time in the foreseeable future delist goldcoin even if it has no volume, FACT just ask the owners. Not all exchanges delist based  on volume, and not everyone in crypto is in it for fiat profits, though that simple concept is beyond you.

With so many cryptocurrencies that now exist purely to be mined and dumped for fiat profit, why do occasionally people come to goldcoin complaining its not one of them  :think:
Title: Re: Questions about coin production?
Post by: maccenon on July 10, 2016, 10:16:59 am
I tried all the pools of the coin production, and the same local. One result of all - you take out 90-100% of production