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Need a definitive update
« on: June 10, 2013, 01:30:05 PM »
I think we need an authoritative summary of where things stand at present.

Many people will be confused as to :

1. Which is the latest client, and where to safely download.

1a Where is the fork coming ?  My client shows block 20892 completed, but I don't know if that is correct,and if the fork is at 20900, I do not have that client.

2. Which is the official forum, by majority vote , and especially as far as the dev. is concerned ?

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Re: Need a definitive update
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2013, 01:53:09 PM »
1- The latest client is the client we are using now. Which we downloaded from the main GLD thread on bitcointalk forum.

2- At this stage the fork will be activated at block 21000. The dev had put a thread on old GLD forum about moving fork to block 20900 and wanted our opinion. Opnions were divided between let fork at block 21000 and moving it to block 20900. We havent heard anything from dev so it seems he will leave fork at 21000.

3- I think and many others agree with me that this GLD forum should be the official GLD forum. MicroGuy is running this forum and doing a great job. I hope that the dev also agrees with me that this should become official forum with all info about GLD.
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Re: Need a definitive update
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2013, 02:12:11 PM »
so once this fork happens, we need to update our client. Or did the most recent update include the fork in the coding already?  I don't want to loose my shares, so I need to know how to properly go about doing this. Any help is awesome.
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Re: Need a definitive update
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2013, 02:16:08 PM »
1- The latest client is the client we are using now. Which we downloaded from the main GLD thread on bitcointalk forum.

2- At this stage the fork will be activated at block 21000. The dev had put a thread on old GLD forum about moving fork to block 20900 and wanted our opinion. Opnions were divided between let fork at block 21000 and moving it to block 20900. We havent heard anything from dev so it seems he will leave fork at 21000.

3- I think and many others agree with me that this GLD forum should be the official GLD forum. MicroGuy is running this forum and doing a great job. I hope that the dev also agrees with me that this should become official forum with all info about GLD.
I agree on 3).
The first 2 are also correct.

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Re: Need a definitive update
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2013, 02:36:30 PM »
1- The latest client is the client we are using now. Which we downloaded from the main GLD thread on bitcointalk forum.

2- At this stage the fork will be activated at block 21000. The dev had put a thread on old GLD forum about moving fork to block 20900 and wanted our opinion. Opnions were divided between let fork at block 21000 and moving it to block 20900. We havent heard anything from dev so it seems he will leave fork at 21000.

3- I think and many others agree with me that this GLD forum should be the official GLD forum. MicroGuy is running this forum and doing a great job. I hope that the dev also agrees with me that this should become official forum with all info about GLD.

I am also in accord with those 3 points. Thanks for confirming.

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Re: Need a definitive update
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2013, 02:44:48 PM »
1- The latest client is the client we are using now. Which we downloaded from the main GLD thread on bitcointalk forum.

2- At this stage the fork will be activated at block 21000. The dev had put a thread on old GLD forum about moving fork to block 20900 and wanted our opinion. Opnions were divided between let fork at block 21000 and moving it to block 20900. We havent heard anything from dev so it seems he will leave fork at 21000.

3- I think and many others agree with me that this GLD forum should be the official GLD forum. MicroGuy is running this forum and doing a great job. I hope that the dev also agrees with me that this should become official forum with all info about GLD.
I agree on 3).
The first 2 are also correct.

Thanks:
I believe it is helpful to restate these things, as there will be a lot of people still seeing conflicting info. on btctalk,
and in other locations. I will try to reach any that I can.

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Re: Need a definitive update
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2013, 02:59:14 PM »
1- The latest client is the client we are using now. Which we downloaded from the main GLD thread on bitcointalk forum.

2- At this stage the fork will be activated at block 21000. The dev had put a thread on old GLD forum about moving fork to block 20900 and wanted our opinion. Opnions were divided between let fork at block 21000 and moving it to block 20900. We havent heard anything from dev so it seems he will leave fork at 21000.

3- I think and many others agree with me that this GLD forum should be the official GLD forum. MicroGuy is running this forum and doing a great job. I hope that the dev also agrees with me that this should become official forum with all info about GLD.
I agree on 3).
The first 2 are also correct.

Thanks:
I believe it is helpful to restate these things, as there will be a lot of people still seeing conflicting info. on btctalk,
and in other locations. I will try to reach any that I can.

And i hope the dev will react soon and clarify things up.
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Re: Need a definitive update
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2013, 03:25:15 PM »
The developer contacted me last week and indicated his willingness to accept new developers into the project.

I think what would be helpful at this point is to get a second opinion from an expert regarding what code improvements (if any) are needed. For example we need to know if the litecoin base keys were used. And the blockchain requires further analysis to determine the split status. This is not my area of expertise but I have consulted with a third party and these are his thoughts.

In my estimation, these client syncing / network issues need to be placed at the top of our list of priorities. It would be most helpful to have direct communication with the developer on an ongoing basis. Building a small team of developers is my recommendation. I am willing to pay for their initial involvement within reason. I will post a little later tonight with more updates.

Thank you all for your participation in this critical discussion.
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Re: Need a definitive update
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2013, 05:08:30 PM »

Further thoughts.....

The thing that attracted me to this coin was the name Gold Coin.

I also very much like the GLD designation. It has nothing to do with the type of hash or the block reward, it's simply the name I like. This is how consumers look at things, not from the underlying technology. If that was the case, no one would use Windows. But they like that name and they will like this name.

And there is nothing that can stop this coin from succeeding if we can all work together and build a team. This is going to take focus, cooperation, compromise, and leadership. When I talk about the stars aligning, this is what I mean.

This coin is like a mighty ship dead in the water and drifting towards a giant iceberg. There is no power and the rudder is useless. We need to take emergency measures to regain directional control of this ship and either steer to the right or to the left of the iceberg. As long as we miss the iceberg, we are still afloat and alive.

1. The Right Turn

Try to salvage the current code and fix the blockchain through coordinated hashing power. Update the client as needed and continue with this version. This will require someone at the helm of the code that can/will communicate and respond to emails and private messages. We also need to know more about the code so we don't become blindsided down the road. If we take the right turn, we still need a second developer.

2. The Left Turn

This is a HARD left. Write a new client from scratch that is leaner and meaner than the existing client.  One that has been well thought out and cleanly written. Then what we can do is pre-mine coins for the purposes of exchange. We will create an exchange program where miners and investors holding coins from the current version 1.0 can swap them for shares/coins from version 2.0. This will keep market prices in check and will most probably increase the market prices as the market then would see we have a new and clear direction.


 These are my thoughts. I welcome yours.
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Re: Need a definitive update
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2013, 05:45:31 PM »
I think their is still a possibility to salvage Goldcoin. We are almost at block 21000. The only thing we should do is to increase our hashpower. Furtermore as MicroGuy stated its important that the dev of GLD should involve more developers to help him and us a hand. Its also important of the dev to keep us updated to prevent things like now that some questions stay unanswered.

And when things really turn out we cant salvage GLDCoin than we have always the option to still turn very hard left. ;)
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Re: Need a definitive update
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2013, 07:17:18 PM »
I have just placed the following "Help Wanted" advertisement on Bitcointalk.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=231487
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Re: Need a definitive update
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2013, 07:27:35 PM »
I also very much like the GLD designation. It has nothing to do with the type of hash or the block reward, it's simply the name I like. This is how consumers look at things, not from the underlying technology. If that was the case, no one would use Windows. But they like that name and they will like this name.

The only problem with the name is that it matches the symbol of the SPDR Gold Trust ETF which is GLD. Which may get a bad rep when people find out that they hold less gold than they sell shares for. In case of a gold run lots of investors will be holding the bag. And that might sour many people on the name GLD. :-\

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Re: Need a definitive update
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2013, 07:33:06 PM »
I also very much like the GLD designation. It has nothing to do with the type of hash or the block reward, it's simply the name I like. This is how consumers look at things, not from the underlying technology. If that was the case, no one would use Windows. But they like that name and they will like this name.

The only problem with the name is that it matches the symbol of the SPDR Gold Trust ETF which is GLD. Which may get a bad rep when people find out that they hold less gold than they sell shares for. In case of a gold run lots of investors will be holding the bag. And that might sour many people on the name GLD. :-\

http://www.spdrgoldshares.com

I don't foresee see that as being an issue. This is called GLDcoin. What I'm concerned about is the fact that people have stopped mining this coin. We have to get people mining this coin again.
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Re: Need a definitive update..left or right
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2013, 07:34:33 PM »

Further thoughts.....

The thing that attracted me to this coin was the name Gold Coin.

I also very much like the GLD designation. It has nothing to do with the type of hash or the block reward, it's simply the name I like. This is how consumers look at things, not from the underlying technology. If that was the case, no one would use Windows. But they like that name and they will like this name.

And there is nothing that can stop this coin from succeeding if we can all work together and build a team. This is going to take focus, cooperation, compromise, and leadership. When I talk about the stars aligning, this is what I mean.

This coin is like a mighty ship dead in the water and drifting towards a giant iceberg. There is no power and the rudder is useless. We need to take emergency measures to regain directional control of this ship and either steer to the right or to the left of the iceberg. As long as we miss the iceberg, we are still afloat and alive.

1. The Right Turn

Try to salvage the current code and fix the blockchain through coordinated hashing power. Update the client as needed and continue with this version. This will require someone at the helm of the code that can/will communicate and respond to emails and private messages. We also need to know more about the code so we don't become blindsided down the road. If we take the right turn, we still need a second developer.

2. The Left Turn

This is a HARD left. Write a new client from scratch that is leaner and meaner than the existing client.  One that has been well thought out and cleanly written. Then what we can do is pre-mine coins for the purposes of exchange. We will create an exchange program where miners and investors holding coins from the current version 1.0 can swap them for shares/coins from version 2.0. This will keep market prices in check and will most probably increase the market prices as the market then would see we have a new and clear direction.


 These are my thoughts. I welcome yours.

I had considered these points a few weeks ago, before our trojan horses wreaked havoc. I bought a large % of the coins available as soon as anyone was offering them on btctalk, primarily because I felt the name was the biggest asset, but also because the block generation was fast (didn't take into account sticky downwards diff adjustment though). Then I tried to encourage and moderate the community, but turned out there were too many loose cannons.

I am working with several other alts. as that is the only way to be open minded to the opportunities and pitfalls which can blindside a very focussed coder/trader.

The hard left is an intriguing one...needs some serious technical knowhow, but would IMO have the biggest potential.

I have studied, traded, and own 10 different alts., and have taken great pains in the last couple of months to understand their individual strengths and weaknesses. The consequences of these pros and cons can still be seen unfolding in real-time. I will be happy to give my own views FWIW.

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Re: Need a definitive update
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2013, 07:38:43 PM »
I also very much like the GLD designation. It has nothing to do with the type of hash or the block reward, it's simply the name I like. This is how consumers look at things, not from the underlying technology. If that was the case, no one would use Windows. But they like that name and they will like this name.

The only problem with the name is that it matches the symbol of the SPDR Gold Trust ETF which is GLD. Which may get a bad rep when people find out that they hold less gold than they sell shares for. In case of a gold run lots of investors will be holding the bag. And that might sour many people on the name GLD. :-\

http://www.spdrgoldshares.com
Don't worry about that...You are thinking too far ahead, and its far from certain any way.

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